Don't get him wrong; Joel Kilgour is grateful for the public support of people who are homeless when we enter this kind of deep cold.
And as the coordinator of the Chum Warming Center, he's excited about the political will he says is behind a permanent, 24-hour warming center he hopes will be up and running by next year.
Thanks to a network of supports, Joel says he's confident that when people leave the Warming Center in the morning, they have another place to go.
But he wants people to know that not only is -20° deadly to people who are homeless, so is 32° and wet. or 100° when you have limited access to water.
No matter how many warming centers and emergency services you provide, says Kilgour, it will be a constant battle until there is housing.
